amenoch ([info]amenoch) wrote,
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Kalok: So even If I got Seven hundred Demons Who'd Gladly jump into your pants, You STILL wouldn't consider yourself attractive??

Loki: No. If I am not attracted to ME it Doesn't count. I am a Slave to My Vanity. A Willing Slave. And I still Fail to see the point of all this gibberish. You know you can't help someone who isn't willing to be helped in the way you think they should be.

Kalok: You're fucking impossible. I don't understand why you don't want to be helped.

Loki: What? Are you Going to Track Down the Angry and Self Righteous Sonova Bitch who did this to me and Demand some sort of Deal?? He would laugh at you. I don't even know who or what did it. Or better still get yourself Beholden to Some Evil bastard like Warren in exchange for my Vanity?? Surely Not Darling, I'd never ask that of myself, so I couldn't ask it of you, or anyone. Then Say you did something so Phenomenally Stupid... What would you Really accomplish?? I am Restored my Angelic form. What if I don't Like it?? What if I simply ignore it and stay in regular old me form instead... Because I like this one for now? What would you have accomplished?
For the Love of God, Just Drop it. I refuse to accept my Form. Because I don't have to. I have gotten around it in every way. And that is Fine. I won't Visit such ugliness on anyone that I love, including myself.

I don't see what the problem is to you anyway.

Kalok: Warren Agrees with me. That you are Running away. That you're accepting Fake over Real and True. and it can't make you happy. You can't evolve that way.

Loki: Oh Yes you Can. Anything is Possible, Kalok Lover Of Magus, Now Relative of Lucifer By less than Three Degrees of Separation. Small Fucking World. And I have taken care of that which Made me unhappy. I came Clean, I told everyone. I Showed Everyone. No one Cared, Just as you Said. And if No one cares about My true shape, then No one will care if I Stay in this one. Hoorah! I am Insignificant. Enough time has passed in Hell that No one Gives a Shit about When or Why I was Excommunicated. I can come and Go Freely there again, Most likely. But Why?
I have no Friends there. Not like you.
And Warren and Bella aren't my Friends. Granted, they refrain from killing me for spite or food, But I think that's more out of Respect For YOU and Nilofer than Anything else. I'm Glad I AMUSE them Enough that they laugh at me. That May be of some worth...

Kalok: Don't Get all EMO. You say stupid Shit when you're Emo. And you don't Want to Put words in their Mouths. Warren Does think it's Funny because you are Being Re-diddly-damn-Diculous! You and your Fucking "I am a Monster" issues. It's HILARIOUS to see this Fucking Hard ass Teacher Demon all deluded about himself to this degree! Warren in Legion form is a Right Proper Monster. I would have Still Fucked him If I'd have ever got the Chance... JUST to see what it was Like... And I'd Fuck you no Matter what Shape you were in... Because Form is Emptiness. Emptiness is Form. It Means Nothing to me. AS it means nothing to Anyone who's been Paying attention for the last Several hundred Years.

Loki: YOU are the one attached to Form here! Preach Zen at me all you like, You are the one who thinks I should be some way other than the way that I am, and then Turns around and Quotes Words at me Who's Direct and Specific meaning is that it Doesn't Bloody Well Matter at all!

Rath: You are Both Right.

Daemeon: She can't make you do anything Mister Loki.

Kalok: I'm not trying to MAKE him do anything. I'm trying to Persuade him not to keep his Head up his ASS. There is an Aspect of Himself that he Does not Love. Therefore his Experience of Self Love cannot, In my Mind, Be complete. And it will be this Incomplete experience of Self Love that he Brings to Any Relationship that he Enters. That is what Bothers. That is what is Wrong.

Loki: And if I Do not Define Myself In Terms of My Body? What then?

Kalok: :: points a Finger at his Nose :: You are NOT your Body, But Your Body is a part of you! it is Not the Whole, But is included in the SUM. Your Body is of Your Own Creation--
Loki: No, it isn't.
Kalok: LET ME FINISH! And If you disown any part of that Creation, Call it Bad... Reject it in any way, You call the Whole Lot of it Bad. You are a triune Being, Just like everyone else in here- You don't get a choice about that, that's the way it fucking is. If you decide that your body is not a part of you then it will Waste away.

Loki: No, It Won't. And I Never said that my Body wasn't a part of me. I Clearly stated that I was a Slave to Vanity, and You can't have Looks without a Body. And I am at Choice, in every moment, to a Profoundly Fluid Degree because of my powers and magical talents, as to what form I take. I am Almost as much a Physical Secular Being as You. In Fact there was a time, Kalok, Not long ago, when it was ME that others saw and Reacted to in Amy, Not you. You have Grown immensely. And it is Good. Evolution is not a straight line, however. And we all experience times of immense growth. And then Times of little Growth. I am Growing right now Emotionally. Just because you can't see it doesn't mean it's not there, happening or Real.

Kalok: Then Learn to Love yourself. ALL of yourself. If it is Really Nothing to you, then What would it hurt you to Come to Love this form you seem to so Despise? Why do you Love that nasty Drippy Slimy Form you take when you're all Emo More than this One that you feel You were Cursed with?

Loki: Simply because it was not My Choice. Surely YOU, Who swear By Free will, To Whom Any act against the Free Will Of another is a Grinding Affront to your Very Soul... Surely You of all people Could empathize with the fact that I Hate it Because it was Forced On Me against My Will. it has nothing to Do with the Form itself. it is about the fact that I was Denied a Basic Universal Right and Somehow Denied it FOREVER MORE. Until I found a way around it. Which I have. All rules are Made to be bent and tested. And I have made this penalty insignificant to me. I'd have Thought that you would instead be Proud with me, that I totally subverted the curse.

Kalok: ::grins:: You're dancing around my Point. SO, I will Thrust more acutely. Now that you have Totally subverted this Curse, Now that you can become anything, Including an exact replica of your original shape, Why not Love this form that you hate... Why not make that the Final Fuck you to the bastard that laid the curse upon you? What if that Breaks the Damn curse? I mean If you Could Love that Form, Would it Not Cease to be a Curse? And if it was no Longer a Curse in your Mind... It would No longer have any Power over you. And There are Many Spells that simply Fail when they loose all power over the subject.

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[info]kitsune_sakura

November 3 2006, 17:28:05 UTC 5 years ago

Anfisa:
Do you want to know what's not fair Loki...
Is that you can be mean and cruel...and pick on people on THEIR issues...
But you get all Emo when they do it too you...
You did it too me...
You mocked mine...
And now that Warren pokes a bit...
You throw it against him...
That isn't fair.

Warren:
I don't understand why it matters so much.
You took a side...
You took Lucifer's side...
You were "punished."
In all honesty your not suppose to like punishment...
But you're supposed to LEARN something from being punished.
Yes,
you probably can never return to "glorious angels."
But why does that matter so much?
Would you happy than?
Or do you not understand that you choose your happiness?
Why does being "beautiful" matter?
It's just a word...
It's just a thought...
It's just a being term.
That you got wrapped around in you mind.
Demon...
Angel...
People get to wrapped into those notions.
Demons are fallen angels - still angels...
AND...
If you really want to be pretty again...
Make a deal with me...
::grins::

[info]amenoch

November 4 2006, 06:08:56 UTC 5 years ago

K: Told you so!

Kalok: What did I Tell you!??

What did I tell you about getting all Emo and Saying stupid shit!??
::laughs:: O Fuck you should see his Face...

I will never Be an Angel Again. I Will never Be a Proper Demon. Don't Bother me None. I am That I Am. Like GOD supposedly Said. I prefer Popeye the Sailor. Iyam wat Iyam. Same difference. I was never Very pretty anyway. I prefer Regal. it works better on Tall people.

Loki: Does anyone else see that Kalok is the one That is making a big deal out of this, and not Me?

Kalok: I'm only Doing it because I Love you. ::grinns wickedly::

Once upon a Time, Before any of you Ever knew me, I was a Very different person. I was Very much A Follower of Diana. I was all about the Virgin huntress immage. Very much a Chaste warrioress. I took it Very seriously. The beginning of this life, I had relinquished Certain parts of myself so that I could live the Beauty of Rediscovering them. Hence, relinquishing My Sexual identity.

And OH Did Loki Pick on me. Oh did he Back me into Corners and Do and Say the Most Wicked Shit to me. Everything the could Get away with Alive he Did. One Time I Tore his Nose off With My Teeth to get him Off me. He was ALL about Poking at me.

And Goddamn if revenge ain't a Dish Best served Cold.
It was because of him that I Awakened so quickly. It was because of him Pounding at my Defenses ceaselessly, Relentlessly, Visciously, That I have Evolved so Much in one Lifetime. I give him Credit. He was a Great Teacher to me. And I'm Grateful. But I get to be Smug about it. I get to be Wicked Right the Fuck Back. This is My Comupance. ::Grinns widely::

Loki: Oh. I see. I'm Fucked unless I give you what you want right?

Kalok: I haven't decided. Maybe even that won't satisfy. But probably.

Loki: I will not say that I will Never make a Deal with you Warren, because one never Knows all the Possible twists of the futures from this moment. But I do intend to Avoid such an inevitably bad situation for as Long as I can, Even unto Oblivion.

[info]kitsune_sakura

November 4 2006, 06:22:03 UTC 5 years ago

Warren: =_=''

Warren:
Wish to know what I think...
EVERYONE is making a big deal out of this...
::shrugs::
I showed that I cared.
I want an apology though - since you put words in my mouth...
::sighs::
I'm not going to press this matter any longer...
Even you deal with it...
Or you don't...
It's your fate.
I can't hold your hand...
I can't make you take notice to something you wish to blind yourself from.
Unless you ask of me.
I can care...
But I shall do so from a silent stand point.
You apparently think "lowly" of me - like you did of my child...or that's the just of it I took from the journal...you didn't trust her love...like she is a "snob".
If you need me Loki...
You know where I lay.
But mark my words "teacher" your problems catch up with you...
And you cannot run forever...

[info]amenoch

November 4 2006, 06:41:47 UTC 5 years ago

K: Alright... I didn't mean to start a War.

Kalok: We have trust issues in here. Amy and Loki have batted them back and Forth between them, Trying to manage them for a Long time. Amy is making progress, and Really so is Loki. But Old Dog, new Tricks... it goes slow for him.
Loki Never thought Badly Of Nilofer.
The Bastard was In Love with her For MONTHS before he told anyone. because he Refused to Force anything on her. Because he thought that she was enjoying the Arrangement they had, No strings attached. because he Never wanted Power over her. But he Wanted to be Close. Not that he didn't trust her. But that he didn't want her to Come to Any harm by his doing. And not out of Fear of Either you Or Bella. because he Cared about her.

I like you Warren. You're an eversplendid Interesting Sort of guy.
But I will Defend him here. Loki Thinks Very highly of you, and VERY lowly of himself. You know how it is... When someone has Low self esteem to the point that they cannot immagine ANYONE thinking of them in any caring sort of way. I'm Sure you have Dealt with this Kind of Situation in Your Years of efforts with Kayla.

[info]kitsune_sakura

November 4 2006, 06:47:16 UTC 5 years ago

Warren: And you didn't. Am I not allowed to speak how I feel?

Warren:
Fine you can defend him...
I'm just stating how I feel...
And I hate having words put in my mouth...
I have been more than nice...
I have been more than civil...
I have more than accepting...
And I don't wish to have things put in my mouth.

So I shall leave this subject as it is.

If I did not like him...
I would not have defended him...

[info]amenoch

November 4 2006, 06:56:55 UTC 5 years ago

::raises her hands::

Kalok: You are More than Entitled. I do Not Question that. You can Be an Amazingly Nice person when all is said and Done at the End of the Day. That's one of the Primary Reasons I Like you. You can be both the Dark and the Light of it. I Told him not to say these things. He had the option of Deleting that Bit. it's a Computer. That's how they work.
I'm Glad he left it though. So we can Look back on this and Laugh.

[info]kitsune_sakura

November 4 2006, 07:01:21 UTC 5 years ago

Re: ::raises her hands::

Warren:
I am not sure if I will laugh...
For I dislike greatly having words put in my mouth...
If I have something to say...
I will open my mouth up and say it...
Word from word...
I don't regret what has been said...
I will admit it crawled under my skin...
I cannot help that - I am like you said "light," and "dark". I get angry. I have pet-peeves (as beings like to call them).
But he needed to say what he needed to say...
And I did the exact.
"Actions and reactions."
I will always respect Loki for many reasons...
He is a "conflicted" being...
He makes my child happy...
He accepted me and understood my relationship with Makayla...
He backed away from trying to teach her - which I am glad...it only made it worse ::laughs::
So I will admit I have attachments to him...
But I won't accept anyone putting words in my mouth.
Know this - all you, and all of us - if I have something to say I will say it...so do not put words in my mouth.

[info]amenoch

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[info]amenoch

November 4 2006, 06:44:54 UTC 5 years ago

Appologies....

Loki: I am sorry. I use words, and Sometimes they use me in retaliation. I really should watch that sort of thing... Perhaps I am making excuses.

Thank you For defending me. I do not Deserve such.

[info]kitsune_sakura

November 4 2006, 06:50:07 UTC 5 years ago

Accepted.

Warren:
Than stop making excuses...
And Live.

I do not give things...
Unless I believe they are deserved.

You may not like yourself because you base yourself upon your looks...
But I am not like that.
I can see beyond "being" terms.

Like yourself...
Don't like yourself.
You are stuck with yourself.
Ugly...
Charming...
Beautiful...
You are you.
And until you like yourself...
You are traped by "fake" self.

Stop being harsh on yourself.
Accept yourself.
Because it is that easy.
You are just making it hard...
Your choice...

[info]amenoch

November 4 2006, 07:16:03 UTC 5 years ago

The Hall of Mirrors.

Loki: How far back in the hall of Mirrors must I wander before I see my True Face, and call it good?
Am I willing to Wander there?

Kalok: You better be. I have better things to Do than make you Conjugate Latin at Sword point all damn day. Go to Bed. lay off the Fucking Coke for a while. And Wake up Miraculously better like you always seem to. I don't know where you Go when you actually Sleep and Dream, But they Do good work there.

[info]kitsune_sakura

November 4 2006, 07:21:17 UTC 5 years ago

Re: The Hall of Mirrors.

Warren:
Until you can accept yourself...
There's your answer.
I suppose you should answer that question yourself...
Because only you can decide when you accpet yourself...
And stop being silly over such matters.

I never quite understood why people were insane over looks...
I swear...
It really is in the "eye of the beholder."
I personally never gave a shit - I am a monster...I don't care how I look...I am me...regardless of my outer apperance.

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[info]kitsune_sakura

November 3 2006, 18:08:07 UTC 5 years ago

Warren:
OH, and by the way...
I LIKED YOU BEFORE YOU DATED MY DAUGHTER!
So do not give me that sort of bullshit...

AND DO NOT PUT WORDS IN MY MOUTH...
It insults me.
I do not do it too you...
Do not do it too me...

I would not have defended you when Daine began his verbal insults...
The other night...
That is what I almost killed him about...
Y-O-U...

So do not put words in my mouth...
That is something I hate very badly...

[info]amenoch

November 4 2006, 06:18:13 UTC 5 years ago

You have No Idea how I wished you'd eaten him....

Loki: I know it was Not Kalok's Wish. I know it was he Night, and she wanted no Violence. I know she has a Soft spot in her Heart for that Poisonous little Toad... But I wished, I prayed that you would Eat him.


[info]kitsune_sakura

November 4 2006, 06:22:46 UTC 5 years ago

Re: You have No Idea how I wished you'd eaten him....

Warren:
Do you wish for me to eat him?

[info]amenoch

November 4 2006, 06:29:25 UTC 5 years ago

I KNEW IT!

Kalok: I KNEW IT I KNEW Dain had said Something about Loki! I couldn't hear across the Room But Loki was so Busy being Miserable I KNEW that Dain couldn't resist picking at him.
Dain Hated Everyone Except me and Thijalfi. He's a hateful bastard. He and Rath go Way back as Enemies. But Loki is a Master at What he Does. Dain is a VERY Straight Man. And Loki Got him in the Sack. Early On too....
::Chuckles::
I knew he wouldn't pass up the opportunity to Jeer at Loki in a Moment of Misery.
Insecure. Macho Bulshit.

[info]kitsune_sakura

November 4 2006, 06:36:04 UTC 5 years ago

Re: I KNEW IT!

Warren:
::shrugs::
He'll learn to shut up...
If I own him...
Or posse him...
Apparently he needs to be taught manners - and I am great at teaching...
I'll give him a offer he cannot refuse.

[info]amenoch

November 4 2006, 06:49:27 UTC 5 years ago

wouldn't wish it on a Dog.

Kalok: I can think of at least Ten things I'd Rather have Happen to ME... But Dain is a master of his Own Fate. I will say nothing to condemn him, because I would not wish such a Thing even on My lesser enemies... Much less someone I once called my Lover. But Nor will I Defend Dain. If he can't get away from you, Then Maybe he was fool enough to call such experience to his Door.
::shakes her head:: I'll Sing a Funerary Dirge or something.

[info]kitsune_sakura

November 4 2006, 06:51:54 UTC 5 years ago

Re: wouldn't wish it on a Dog.

Warren:
::smiles::
I asking Loki if he wanted me to eat Dain.
I know what your answer would be...
And it was Loki that Dane made comments over too me - because he overheard me picking on Loki too the major demons (old old friends).

[info]amenoch

November 4 2006, 07:01:40 UTC 5 years ago

Retorical Questions

Kalok: ::grins:: But If he Answers your question with a "yes" Isn't there a Bit of Danger in that?
I Mean Sure... Loki Hates Dain because of the Way he Treated Amy. Loki Hates him with a Purple Passion, and I know he would have HOWLED with Laughter if Dain had Gotten himself Eaten. it Might even have Made him Laugh so hard he Cried.

But if you Give Loki What he Wants... Isn't there a subtle Verbal Agreement in there??

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[info]kitsune_sakura

November 4 2006, 03:07:10 UTC 5 years ago

Putting words in my mouth...

Belladonna:
Feelings are the lanuage of the soul, but you must make sure you are listening to your true feelings and not some conterfeit model constructed in your mind...

[info]amenoch

November 4 2006, 06:19:57 UTC 5 years ago

Re: Putting words in my mouth...

Loki: would you be content then, If I told you that I drown in the Shame of it Every day, and I am too Proud to ask for assistance in getting past it?

[info]kitsune_sakura

November 4 2006, 06:24:08 UTC 5 years ago

Re: Putting words in my mouth...

Belladonna:
You must think of me as a cruel being...
The shame on you Loki for thinking such...
"Content."
Pride is a sin...

[info]amenoch

November 4 2006, 06:51:11 UTC 5 years ago

good at, bad at.

Loki: There are Several sins it seems I am Bad at. At Least I know There is at Least One I am good at.

[info]kitsune_sakura

November 4 2006, 06:54:24 UTC 5 years ago

Re: good at, bad at.

Belladonna:
Than master them...
Do not let them master you.
Or do you need to be taught such a feat?
Or do you need to be introduce too "Virtue" - too counter sin you must be given the viture of that sin.

Pride = Humility.

[info]amenoch

November 4 2006, 07:04:11 UTC 5 years ago

Re: good at, bad at.

Loki: Love has Given me More humility than I have Ever Felt.
A Shocking thing that I am still learning how to deal with.
So... Out of Curiosity, What is the Virtue to Counter Lust??
It's Chastity or something, isn't it??

[info]amenoch

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